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General Category => AN Issues => Topic started by: Derek on October 06, 2006, 03:50:03 am
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Anyone pre-treatment noticed any changes in their bowel movement?
I have experienced this for the past 2 years of the 'wait and watch' procedure and a very thorough medical examination involving the use of an endoscope camera has concluded that there is thankfully nothing untoward.
Just wondered if the AN could be the scource of the problem re contacting a relevant nerve etc?
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There are a couple of possibilties
- firstly watch and wait can be quite stressfull - the worry etc
and this could generally upset the metabilism
And secondly - depending where a tumour is and how large
it could be compressing the brain stem which then alters the nerve
signals to and from other parts of the body.
You might normally find other symptoms like
one side of the body 25% weaker than the other
or tingling sensations, or simply lack of touch sense, one side.
Hope things sort themselves out
best regards
tony
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My tumor was pressing on the vagus nerve which is the gi nerve. A doctor diagnosed me with irritable bowel syndrome almost 2 years before surgery, after surgery my stomach is fine, all those symptoms went away with the tumor. So yes the tumor may be causing your troubles.
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interesting...I've had trouble too and wondered if it was connected or not.
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Actually I have thought of a third way - sometimes an AN affects either
the chewing or swallowing function- if you were not doing either completely
it may lead to digestion issues...
Might worth mentioning to your doc - see if he can offer some indication
as to where the AN is near.
Best regards
Tony
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Many thanks for your interesting responses...particularly the post by 'Pembo'...I now do believe that there is a correlation in my case attributable to possible nerve impact as, fortunately, the presence of the AN does not consciously make me ultra stressful and I do not have any apparent problems related to chewing or swallowing actions.
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I would get bad head pain when I strained. This was before I knew I had the tumor. I do not get it anymore.
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WOW!!! youv'e got to be kidding. Is there anything in our bodies that the dreaded AN didn't mess with????????? ugh!
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I am still experiencing a bowel problem of a rather 'loose' nature which unfortunately has recently escalated and the colorectal surgeon treating me is presently having difficulty in providing a definitive diagnosis.
In the interim I have written to my neurosurgeon requesting his opinion as to whether or not there could be a correlation with my AN. I will update the board when I receive his response.
Regards
Derek
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Derek, I had the same type of loose bowel problem. By the time I had surgery I was eating only a few foods and I carried Immodium everywhere and used it almost daily. Like I said, after surgery those problems were completely gone immediately. I went back to eating everything with no problems. Good luck.
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Hi Pembo...
Thanks for your further post re this rather delicate matter. I tend to agree with your comments and I will be interested to learn what the neurosurgeon has to say relevant to a possible correlation.
Regards
Derek
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For whatever it's worth:
In the 6 months prior to the discovery of my AN, my appetite was 'off' and I 'filled up' easily, eating about a third of what I would have normally eaten at any one meal...even desserts. I dropped over 30 pounds within six months. My digestion remained fairly normal. Just fewer BM's due to eating much less. I had a typical middle-aged male 'gut' and most of the lost weight came from there, so I didn't really care much - I lost almost 2" off my waistline - but I was getting noticably thinner (and lighter) so my wife became concerned and scheduled a doctor visit on my behalf. With my increasing lethargy and equally noticeable loss of equilibrium, I think she feared the worst (cancer).
After ruling out a thyroid problem (with a blood test) my PCP ordered an MRI scan (with contrast) and thus, my 4.5 cm AN tumor was discovered. A month later, I had retrosigmoid approach surgery to de-bulk it. Following the surgery, my normal appetite returned. I still haven't put on a lot of weight - about 5 pounds or so. However, as part of the treatment plan to destroy my AN, I underwent a series of 26 daily 'fractionalized' radiation treatments during September and October, so that might be a factor. My digestion and BM's are perfectly normal. My gastroenterologist said that the stress of the AN on my body (it was encroaching on my cerebellum) was likely a factor in my weight loss. I have to assume that the 5-week low-dose radiation regimen also had an effect on my system, even if there were no outward signs. My neurosurgeon said that loss of appetite was sometimes a symptom of an AN if it was anywhere near the trigeminal nerve, as mine was, although I didn't experience any problems chewing or swallowing, pre-op (or now).
Frankly, I enjoy being thinner. I'm now at about what I weighed 20 years ago (140 lbs. on a 5'7" frame). I also believe that I'lll probably begin to re-gain weight in time, so I've had my wife cut down my meal portions in anticipation of having to watch my diet in the future. Right now, I eat whatever I want. Please don't hate me. :)
In any case, it is becoming pretty obvious that an Acoustic Neuroma tumor can have far-reaching implications for the patients health.
Jim
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Thanks for that most useful input Jim. The colorectal surgeon treating me for the bowel problem has virtually dismssed my 'lay' theory relevant to the AN being a possible causation but I am not 100% satisfied with his somewhat simplistic dismissal of a connection hence my decision to request the definitive info from the neurosurgeon. Watch this space!
Regards
Derek
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I am watching this Derek. We all want to know about the facts of life :).
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Hello,
All I know about the bowel is that like any other part of the body, it needs proper care to function properly. The iodine did me in. (given for the Ct. scan) Anyway, All-Flora is taken once a day. (you must refrigerate it) It works very well for optimal digestive and immune system functioning. Also, yogurt is important!
I have the extra eight foot long colon and take, AloeMaxLax with Cascara Sagrada in it., daily. I was hospitalized once and also in ER once for my problem. I thought I had colon cancer or something. I did go through the small polup removal a few years ago. I then finally found the right balance for myself and have felt healthy in that area, ever since.
This is not something a dainty gal wishes to discuss..........however, I hope this might be information that will help at least
one person. Nobody, could help me when I went through bowel or colon hell of my own kind.
Regards,
Palace
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Im also having problems with my stomach/bowel areas.
I was constipated for a few weeks, then this past week i had what seemed to be a stomach virus...
I feel like my stomach reacts very easily now and my bowel movement change consistency frequently. I get nausea and very gasy quite often. I never had any of these problems before the AN.... ??
I too question if there is a connection, right now I just dont feel like going back to the doctor...Please let us know Derek, Im really interested.
(Sorry for being so descriptive but I just want to be clear so we can get to the bottom of this))
Tks
T
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T-anne........
"Bottom of this?" (your quote) I'm sorry but, (butt) that is funny. My sense of humor is returning and I got rest last night. Do you think my former post would be of help to you in this discussion. (on a more serious note)
Pal
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i didnt plan that but it is funny ??? :D :D
Yes, it did help, thks. Im trying not to freak out about these tummy things...im so sensitive about my body these days.I feel like a lunatic(sp?) !!!
U are holding up well ??
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Thanks for that most useful input Jim. The colorectal surgeon treating me for the bowel problem has virtually dismssed my 'lay' theory relevant to the AN being a possible causation but I am not 100% satisfied with his somewhat simplistic dismissal of a connection hence my decision to request the definitive info from the neurosurgeon. Watch this space!
Regards
Derek
Well after a prolonged hassle my neurosurgeon finally responded to my query and has indicated that in his experience (which is vast) he has never come across a case whereby the presence of an acoustic neuroma has been linked to a bowel problem of any description.
In the absence of evidence to the contrary I have to concur with his professional advice which is also in agreement with the colorectal surgeon.
Regards
Derek
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Derek you're neuro may have never seen it but I can attest to the fact that my AN was pressing on my vagus nerve, which is the nerve that controls the GI tract, and therefore my AN was the only CAUSE of my gi troubles. For at least 2 years prior to surgery I had lots of GI problems, especially in the year before surgery and diagnosis. By the time I had surgery I had GI problems almost every single day. After surgery I have not had ANY problems, NONE. So I disagree completely with your neurosurgeon.
Just because he personally hasn't had experience wtih it doesn't mean it can't happen. My tumor was pressing on 5 major cranial nerves and my surgeon said that isn't very common. But it happened. Derek I'd be happy to provide my surgeon's name to your surgeon so he can learn that he doesn't know it all.
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Hi there 'Pembo'...
Many thanks for your response and I do believe that you and your neuro are absolutely correct in your assessment of your particular bowel problem.
My neuro is not the one that will ultimately be doing my treatment re (as mentioned in another thread) I do not have the essential level of confidence in him nor his ENT/otolaryngologist to progress my treatment via the microsurgical route.
I have an appointment in April with a neuro who will ultimately carry out my chosen GK treatment and I intend to discuss the bowel aspect with him. I will update this thread when I get his response.
In the interim I am having further bowel tests at the end of this month and should the colorectal consultant discover the causation I will also post a relevant update.
Derek
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Hey Derek. I hope I didn't come off as too witchy in my post but arrogant surgeons who deny "they" have never seen whatever just really piss me off. They don't know it all and I wish all the AN docs would get together and talk about all their patients. Thank goodness for the internet so we know we aren't alone in our "symptoms that the doc has never seen before."
A side note-I questioned my surgeon as to why I get low grade sinus headaches only on the an side when the weather changes and he tried to tell me it wasn't surgery related. I then told him that others on this site have the same problem and he still didn't believe it was related. I didn't get these headaches before surgery! Grrr..
Have a great day and I hope you bowel problems are an related so that when your an is gone, so are they! :)
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Hi again 'Pembo'...
'Witchy'?...not at all...I totally agree with your analogy re the arrogant attitude of some medical 'professionals' towards their patients particularly the total lack of compassion and empathy that this minority sadly frequently display re often failing to acknowledge the basic fear and apprehension of the unknown experienced by patients following diagnosis of a major health issue. That faction certainly do not like being challenged or questioned about their theories and it feels like you have struck gold when you eventually find a good one!
Regards
Derek
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Hi all...
I received a letter today from the same neurosurgeon who had advised me that in his experience there was no correlation between an acoustic neuroma and a problem affecting the bowel.
The correspondence clarifies the previous advice in that a bowel problem can affect a patient who has been diagnosed with neorofibromatosis - Type NF-1 which is an autosomal dominant gene disorder that can cause tumours to grow in the covering / sheath of the nerves anywhere in the body at any time. I fortunately do not have that condition which apparently affects 1 in every 3000 of the population of both sexes and all races / ethnic groups. The NF-1 gene is located on chromosome 17 and can affect the digestive tract causing vomiting and chronic constiptation / diarrhea.
Regards
Derek
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I get bad head pain and lightheadedness when I strain. It must be the tumor and the cyst now growing around it, right?
I would get bad head pain when I strained. This was before I knew I had the tumor. I do not get it anymore.
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Hi all...
I originated this topic over 2 years ago in October 2006 which generated interest and I thought that I should finalise with an apparent positive conclusion in that relevant to myself, the presence of the AN in my opinion did NOT have any correlation to the then existing bowel problem which no longer exists. You will recall from my previous inputs that I had extensive medical tests which concluded that there was no apparent medical reason for my condition. I have recently ascertained via my own ongoing personal assessments that the culprit was in fact my daily liberal intake of a high bran content breakfast cereal. Within days of completely cutting out the relevant cereal my hitherto loose bowel condition was no more. I'm a porridge man now and.....no probs!
Regards
Derek
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For whatever it's worth:
In the 6 months prior to the discovery of my AN, my appetite was 'off' and I 'filled up' easily, eating about a third of what I would have normally eaten at any one meal...even desserts. I dropped over 30 pounds within six months. My digestion remained fairly normal. Just fewer BM's due to eating much less. I had a typical middle-aged male 'gut' and most of the lost weight came from there, so I didn't really care much - I lost almost 2" off my waistline - but I was getting noticably thinner (and lighter) so my wife became concerned and scheduled a doctor visit on my behalf. With my increasing lethargy and equally noticable loss of equilibrium, I think she feared the worst (cancer[/color]).
After ruling out a thyroid problem (with a blood test) my PCP ordered an MRI scan (with contrast) and thus, my 4.5 cm AN tumor was discovered.
I too asked my GP to do a thyroid blood test... (He set me for a MRI too ... and we know the end of that story :) ) anyway... I had the problem the other way around... I was eating more than I used too !! I did not gain a lot of weight (ok maybe a little) .. but I was actually shocking people on my eating habits....(we went to a buffet once... I had 6 full plates of food) I would eat another meal an hour after dinner... 2 lunches... etc .. I was just never would stay full long ... My theory was I was fighing the lost of balance .. I would not let it slow me down .. and I needed the extra "fuel" ... today, I am back to "normal"...