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saralynn143

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Facial physical therapy
« on: April 27, 2010, 08:27:42 am »
I finally saw Renee Ivens at Washington University for facial physical therapy last Wednesday.

She is very pleasant and nice. We spent some time talking about my history (five year history of left-side hemifacial spasm and wakiing up with facial paralysis after microvascular decompression surgery) and also my feelings about the facial paralysis (I miss my big smile). I told her about meeting Jackie Diehls in Chicago. Renee says she is familiar with Jackie's work and has referred patients to her and had nice things to say about Jackie's specialization in facial issues. She asked if I would like to see Jackie, I told her yes, but I wanted to go through the channels of working with her first as she is in-network and much closer. If she and I feel in the future that I would benefit from a trip to Wisconsin, then I can apply for out-of-network coverage then. She was amenable to that approach. Then I asked what the difference is between neuromuscular retraining and physical therapy. She said it's basically terminology, all physical therapy is neuromuscular retraining.

Next she had me go through a range of facial expressions to see where I am in recovery and how much synkensis I have. She prescribed facial massage and four different exercises, two for the lips and two for the eyes.

Then she asked if I have any questions. My first was how often I would need to see her. She responded that for facial cases, and for out-of-town patients, she schedules appointments every 3-4 weeks, and the interval will lengthen as time goes on. Then I asked her  how much improvement I can expect with diligent exercise. She said she did not want to give me false hope of regaining my smile the way it used to be, but that there is room for improvement, though of course she cannot guarantee how much. She added that even as a PT she thinks my appearance at rest is very good and that I have had good recovery in my smile. I told her that a lot of people consider me to be fully recovered, but I feel there is still much room for improvement. Renee said that her experience has taught her not to concentrate on the smile, even though that it what everyone wants back. Her focus is on getting the facial muscles more balanced and an improved smile comes about through that.

It has really surprised me this week as I have worked on the massage and exercise just how tight my cheek muscle is right by the nasolabial fold. It is hard and painful when I start the massage. I can see where the other muscles have a hard time trying to overcome that pull. On the other hand, it has not surprised me how difficult it is to isolate facial muscles. I was anticipating that. One thing I have discovered is that it is better to do the exercises at my computer using my webcam instead of in front of the bathroom mirror. It's impossible to look at my eyes using the webcam, so it is easier to concentrate on the muscles in my lips, cheek and under my eyes.

My next appointment is May 12.

ßara
MVD for hemifacial spasm 6/2/08
left side facial paresis
 12/100 facial function - 7/29/08
 46 - 11/25/08
 53 - 05/12/09
left side SSD approx. 4 weeks
 low-frequency hearing loss; 85% speech recognition 7/28/08
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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 03:53:11 pm »
Sara -

thanks for the update. 

Good luck and please keep us posted.

Jan
Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 08:44:53 pm »

  I have seen the word "Synkensis"  on this forum before.  I have done a search but did not come up with a definition.   What exactly is synkensis?

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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2010, 05:39:28 am »
rupert- basically it is involuntary muscle movement that accompanies a voluntary movement - such as the eye shutting while eating.

Sara
MVD for hemifacial spasm 6/2/08
left side facial paresis
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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2010, 12:53:02 pm »
Hi Sara-

I was so glad to read your post - I've been anxious to hear how your appointment went!  Glad that you feel optimistic and that you liked Renee.  I know what you mean that other people tend to think we are "back to normal" - it is us who really know how different we feel though. 

It's been about 2 1/2 months since I saw Jackie and I have gotten an amazing amount of improvement, especially in the way my mouth moves when I talk and eat.  I saw a couple of people this weekend whom I haven't seen in 3 or 4 months and they all commented (unsolicited) on how good I looked.  I hope that you get a similar amount of improvement, Sara.  You are frequently on my mind.

Debbi
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2.4 cm Right Side AN
Translab April 30, 2008 at NYU with Drs. Golfinos and Roland
SSD Right ear, Mild synkinesis and facial nerve damage
BAHA "installed" Feb 2011 by Dr. Cosetti @ NYU

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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2010, 03:38:28 pm »
Thanks for responding, Jan, rupert and Debbi.

Debbi, I've been thinking of you too and am so glad your MRI came out clean. I'm really glad to hear that you see improvement to your mouth while talking. That's my next biggest complaint after my smile.

I shared my theory with Renee that most people don't notice my lingering facial problems because at rest I look fairly normal, and by the time we are talking they are looking me in the eye instead of the whole face. It's a lot more obvious in photos or videos because then the viewer is focused on the whole face and not mainly the eyes. She thinks that's exactly right.

Are you still doing hours of exercise every day? When do you fit it in?

Sara
MVD for hemifacial spasm 6/2/08
left side facial paresis
 12/100 facial function - 7/29/08
 46 - 11/25/08
 53 - 05/12/09
left side SSD approx. 4 weeks
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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2010, 04:02:06 am »
I need to do this.  Just have to see how my deductible pans out.  Considering skipping my one-year MRI and follow-ups with surgeons and a few other specialist appointments now that hip surgery has been postponed, and do everything next year to maximize use of deductible.  It's a gamble.
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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2010, 05:47:05 am »
Considering skipping my one-year MRI

Don't do it.  It's important to have your annual MRI. 

Jan
Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
Left AN 3.0 cm (1.5 cm @ diagnosis 6 wks prior) SSD. BAHA implant 3/4/08 (Dr. Battista) Divino 6/4/08  BP100 4/2010 BAHA 5 8/2015

I don't actually "make" trouble..just kind of attract it, fine tune it, and apply it in new and exciting ways

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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 03:41:20 pm »
Hey Sara-

Sorry I didn't respond sooner - just been running around like a fool lately and never enough time.  Anyway, to answer your question - I am down to about 30-40 minutes of stretches a day (2 sessions, 15-20 min each) and about 20 minutes of actual exercises.  When I am driving somewhere, I do a few extra exercises - now that I can tell when my chin starts to wrinkle up, it's pretty easy to do the exercises without a mirror.  So, much less than the 2 1/2 hours I spent the first month (which was worth every minute, in my mind.)

BTW, I think your friend is right about the whole people not noticing thing.  Hadn't thought of the fact that people usually look at your eyes when you are talking. 

Please update and let us know how the therapy is working, okay?    Are you feeling/seeing improvement yet?  I know what you mean about the nasolabial fold - mine is still very tight feeling sometimes, although much better than it was before I started all the stretching.  Jackie has me kind of pinching the fold, making it pouch out, and then holding it for 45 seconds or so.  I use the thumb and forefinger of the opposing hand to do this.

Incidentally, I also use a webcam sometimes.  I am also recording a short bit of video every month or so  - mainly to track the progress of how my mouth moves when I am talking.  So hard to isolate the changes when you see yourself every day.  :)

Deb
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2.4 cm Right Side AN
Translab April 30, 2008 at NYU with Drs. Golfinos and Roland
SSD Right ear, Mild synkinesis and facial nerve damage
BAHA "installed" Feb 2011 by Dr. Cosetti @ NYU

http://debsanadventure.blogspot.com

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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 03:51:28 pm »
Thanks, Debbi. I go back two weeks from today. My cheek is still tight.  When I start the massage there is a spot almost as hard as a rock but it loosens up. It's much easier to do the mouth exercises than the eye ones. I haven't got the trick of relaxing the eye muscles just yet.

Also I am under quite a bit of stress lately as my eldest daughter is graduating from college Saturday, my middle girl is being confirmed Sunday and graduating from middle school the following Sunday. (Eight years ago they also had a double graduation, from kindergarten and eighth grade.) Also, my mom is finally (I hope!) closing on her house this month and that will ease things up tremendously just in time for the summer rush of activities.

I think that if I were able to relax overall, my face will be doing better too. Here's hoping anyway.

Sara

MVD for hemifacial spasm 6/2/08
left side facial paresis
 12/100 facial function - 7/29/08
 46 - 11/25/08
 53 - 05/12/09
left side SSD approx. 4 weeks
 low-frequency hearing loss; 85% speech recognition 7/28/08
1.8 gram thin profile platinum eyelid weight 8/12/08
Fitted for scleral lens 5/9/13

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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 04:28:42 pm »
Sara,do you do some heat on the face too?     Jackie was big on that when saw her that time many years ago.       Your upcoming activities would cause enough stress to make tightness.             
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Re: Facial physical therapy
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 07:43:02 pm »
I had forgot about the word synkensis and that when my right eye squeezed shut when I yawn or open wide that it was synkensis ... I have gotten used to it and just think of it as my face

one stretch/exercise I do is opening my mouth wide and as right eye closes go on and close the left ... and then concentrate on opening them (all done in a dark closet where the family can't watch) ... when I close left eye the right stays closed but not so tightly , more natural (except wide open mouth part  ;D ) ... sometimes I can open them both a little with mouth still open ...try to keep them open the same amount ,  not lopsided giving the appearance that I am winking ...

hope things go good and you have continued improvement
3mm AN discovered Aug 2004
Translab July 2 ,2007
3.2cm x 2.75cm x 3.3cm @ time of surgery