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Anxiety Issues
« on: July 13, 2007, 12:28:57 pm »
Hi Guys,

I haven't been on here in a while due to so many medical people telling me I should have NO symptoms from my 6mm AN and to try and forget about it. I continue to have headaches/earaches ONLY on the side that the AN is on as well as dizziness and now I have started having severe anxiety attacks that have sent me to emergency hyperventilating and freaking out. I have a hard time in places where it is very loud, flashing lights, like a party, concert or nightclub - even some restaurants have this effect on me. I am now afraid to even go to a movie and feel most conmfortable at home but don't want to become a recluse. I have been taking antidepressants for a while and now have Atavan to take when anxiety attacks start. Am I the only one??? Does anyone else have anxiety attacks like this? Is it true that I should have no symptoms? I think I am ok with the little bugger and my watch and wait plan but I want to enjoy life at least a little bit, is that too much to ask?

Corinne
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Re: Anxiety Issues
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2007, 03:01:21 pm »
Hi, Corinne:

I'm so sorry to read about the physical and psychological problems you're experiencing.  Anxiety attacks indicate that you seem to be adversely affected by your knowledge of the tumor (small as it may be) that is residing within your skull.  Is your doctor fully aware of this?  You may need another physician more attuned to your specific needs to help you deal with the anxiety issues, instead of telling you to 'forget about it', which you obviously cannot do easily. Of course, anxiety and dizziness are fairly common with an acoustic neuroma tumor, especially if, due to it's placement, the tumor is affecting certain cranial nerves. However, the degree to which you're experiencing such severe anxiety seems beyond the norm and should be addressed by a qualified physician. 

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2007, 06:04:32 pm »
CORINNE, I ALSO EXPERIENCED ANXITEY ATTACKS PRE AND POST SURGERY.  IN FACT JUST WENT TO THE DOCTOR YESTERDAY FOR THE SAME PROBLEM.  PRE SURGERY IS HARD, BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING TO FACE SO MANY DECISIONS AND WAITING.  IT'S GOOD YOU ARE GOING ON WTIH LIFE, BUT PANIC OR ANXITEY ATTACKS ARE NOT FUN.  NEVER EXPERIENCED IT BEFORE UNTIL I GOT MY AN.  THE DOCTOR GAVE ME SOME MEDICENE TO TRY ALSO.  PRE SURGERY I FINALLY FOUND SOME THINGS THAT REALLY HELPED ME RELAX.  LISTENING TO CALM MUSIC, ONLY HAVING A COUPLE OF FRIENDS OVER AT ONE TIME REALLY HELPED.  IF IT WAS TOO NOISEY OR TOO MUCH MOVEMENT I HAD TO LEAVE IF WE WERE OUT FOR THE EVENING, AND GO HOME.  I THINK IT IS ALL NORMAL FOR THE MOST PART DUE TO THE STRESS OF THE KNOWING THE AN IS THERE AND JUST HAVING IT.  JUST SEE IF YOU CAN FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM.  THAT'S WHAT I'M WORKING TOWARDS MYSELF EVEN AFTER SURGERY.  GOOD LUCK,  AND IF YOU DON'T GET ANY RELIEF BE SURE AND GO BACK TO THE DOCTOR AND TELL HIM HOW YOU ARE FEELING.  HOPE THIS WAS SOME HELP TO YOU.  YOU ARE NOT ALONE.   BB

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Re: Anxiety Issues
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2007, 01:25:59 am »
Thanks everyone! I have my second annual MRI in two weeks and I think it is weighing on my mind. I also have a really stressful job and have to travel a lot so that doesn't help. Just knowing I'm not the only one who has experienced this makes me feel better. I have also recently changed to a new doctor and signed up for yoga so I think it will all come together soon! Thanks again so much for you thoughts...
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Re: Anxiety Issues
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2007, 02:28:00 am »
Hi  Corinne!  So soory that you are having some difficult times, been there done that, love the good times so much better!  I was so very surprized that such a little "bugger" could have such dramatic effects on my daily life. nope, just not ready for that at all.  The First Neuro more or less just gave me a condesending smile, folded his arms and said," well, at least you don't have a brain tumor.......he is no longer my doctor, nor do I personally feel he should be anyone elses untime he takes to be some serious reading about AN's

It is so important to your health and well being to stay as active as you can, get out and and enoy life.  Take it day by day, minute by minute.  I have such insight into the goodness of people since I started this journey.  I am a happieir, more  out going person than I have been in years.  Your life will contiunue on with some changes, some good, some pretty lousey but if we  keep ears  perked  up and try to keep smiling, most, and I sincerely mean most, folks will be smiling right back at you and life goes on.

My best wishes and calming thoughts go with you.  May you find your place of calm, peace and healtful rest while you are waiting.  But most of all, on your good days, HAVE FUN!

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2007, 10:20:19 am »
Hi Corinne,

I get SO angry when I tell a doctor about my symptoms and they say "that shouldn't be happening".  What am I supposed to say to that?  "Okay, I'll stop getting vertigo"?  Needless to say, I don't see those doctors anymore (and they know why).  This is one of my biggest pet peeves.....

My AN is also considered small, and my balance issues are significant enough to cause me to miss work at least once a week.  I know some of my symptoms (insomnia, fatigue, nausea, etc) are most likely related to my increased anxiety level, but the vertigo started long before I knew about the AN.

That being said...we have brain tumors, I think it's normal to feel anxious.  The important thing is to be sure you're taking good care of yourself and keeping your doctor informed of the severity and frequency of your anxiety attacks.

Do you have someone you trust, someone you can confide in?  My anxiety started to subside after I talked it all out with a very dear friend.  Once I had admitted my fear, it didn't seem to have as much power over me.  Oh, I'm still wound pretty tight, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was.

You're going to get through this, Corinne.  There are good days ahead, I'm sure of it.  Please keep in touch and let us know how you're doing.

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Re: Anxiety Issues
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2007, 08:10:56 am »
Hi Guys,

I haven't been on here in a while due to so many medical people telling me I should have NO symptoms from my 6mm AN and to try and forget about it. I continue to have headaches/earaches ONLY on the side that the AN is on as well as dizziness and now I have started having severe anxiety attacks that have sent me to emergency hyperventilating and freaking out. I have a hard time in places where it is very loud, flashing lights, like a party, concert or nightclub - even some restaurants have this effect on me. I am now afraid to even go to a movie and feel most conmfortable at home but don't want to become a recluse. I have been taking antidepressants for a while and now have Atavan to take when anxiety attacks start. Am I the only one??? Does anyone else have anxiety attacks like this? Is it true that I should have no symptoms? I think I am ok with the little bugger and my watch and wait plan but I want to enjoy life at least a little bit, is that too much to ask?

Corinne


Hi Corinne,
You are MOST DEFINITELY not alone with your anxiety.  When I was first diagnosed it took a couple of weeks before everything really sunk in my head.  Then I was on the road to terrible insomnia, feeling so overwhelmed and depressed, loss of appetite, no energy.  I had to take medication for both the insomnia (Restoril finally worked) and anxiety.  With time, meds, a wonderful therapist, and the folks on this site and the cyberknife support group site, things got better.  I was able to get back to my daily routine.  I still have good and not-so good days thinking about my AN and decisions to make.

Personally I don't like drs. who tell you that you don't have symptoms and ignore them.  Something isn't right and they should be helping you find the reason.

Take care,
Theresa
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2007, 04:13:00 pm »
Your anxiety issues are very similar to mine.  I remember going to see "Casino Royale" and coming out in full blown attack.  I was just at the symposium, and it was interesting, there was a psychotherapist there that said that many are not treated properly for depression because everyone has the idea that "you have a brain tumor, of course you are depressed"....I think this may cover anxiety as well.  If anxiety was caused soley by "worry" or "stressing" about the tumor, then why do I have attacks when I'm calm and not even thinking about any of it?  Anyway, what I do is take things in small doses, and find time to get lots of rest when I can. 

Take care!

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Re: Anxiety Issues
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2007, 09:06:18 pm »
I used to have anxiety a lot it seemed.  I actually used to have panic attacks that would make me pass out.  It was really a screwed up time. Its a horrible feeling.

Anyways, I am not a believer in drugs..in fact I don't like the whole idea of diagnosis.  Its like EVERYTHING has to have a label ya know?  Check out this website about anxiety                   http://www.apa.org/topics/anxietyqanda.html

It is somewhat helpful to read that anxiety attacks can occur because you are so worried about getting one in the first place.  It sometimes helps to realize its all in your head and not something physical....sometimes
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Re: Anxiety Issues
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2007, 10:29:43 pm »
I found a very odd cure for my longest lasting panic attack (depression).  About a year ago my husbands new job wasn't going well, our oldest son was having serious girlfriend and job issues and our youngest came home from the Army for a week than left.  The hard part about him leaving was that he said he didn't need me to help him pack the night before he left like he always asked me to do.  I can handle it when one or two are having problems but not when they all are and I can't seem to find a way to help.  You add that on to my medical issues and it turned out to be more than I could handle.  I checked and rechecked everything I did, when at home I had to be in the same room with my husband, I slept 2 hours at a time and awake for at least an hour, then sleep for 2.  This went on for 6 weeks, somehow I managed to work and keep my job.  Nothing changed in any of their lives to help me get over this.  Then an old neighbor passed away and I wanted to go to the Funeral because I wanted to let his wife know I cared.  It was extremely hard to get out of bed and drive myself to the Funeral, my husband had to work so he couldn't take me.  I made it to the Funeral and even made myself speak so I could tell everyone what the neighbors had meant to me.  I realized then that at least I still had my husband and a chance to live and do more with my life.  The anxiety didn't go completely away that day but it certainly got a lot better and not long after that it was gone.  I still get small attacks now and then but I know I kicked the big ONE so I can deal with a little one. P.S.  The next time my son came home on leave he asked me to help him pack the night before he left, made me very happy! 
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2007, 07:22:11 am »
Corrine -  I agree with everyone that anxiety is normal for what we're going through.  I find it disturbing that medical professionals are telling you what symptoms you should and should not have.  The ones I've been seeing keep stressing that every patient is different and will experience different symptoms, different side-effects, and have different rates of recovery.  As others also suggested, IMO you should find another doctor who is willing to listen to you and respect what you are telling him/her.  Having an AN can be frustrated enough, not having the full support of medical professionals must be very difficult. 

Hang in there,

Jan
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Re: Anxiety Issues
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2007, 07:43:22 am »
I had very few symptoms and was happy to watch and wait ... I was not due a new MRI til October
but in April I started having new symptoms that cam on fast ... the AN had sat for over  2 years
with no change  had about double from Oct 2006 til April 2007...it was time to deal with it ....

Now to go back ... after watching for about 18 months my neuro had me see a psychologist a couple times to
be evaluated for stress and discuss any problems I was having emotionally with it ... the head shrink got a laugh
out of me naming the AN Bennie and said I was dealing well ...something I knew but it was nice to get a
second opinion...

My surgeon had told me that he has had to remove tumors not because they were causing any problems
physically but that the though of them in their head caused some patients such anxiety that something had
to be done ... he believes that talking and some counseling is a must for most of his patients... as he says he
treats whole people not just the tumors

As for size he says he watches size but doesn't rank associated problems by the size... I started losing hearing
rapidly and was getting a little wobbly but he said most people with my tumor would have more problems
and he had seen smaller tumors cause more problems

If you can talk to someone it might help...and I hope my rambling post made sense... for some reason
this morning I am having a hard time stringing thoughts together... have had to type ...back up and type
again to kinda get my message across half way like what I want to say
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2007, 02:40:34 pm »
My tumor was medium size when it was surgically removed in 2005, but from 1991 (when this tumor began to present itself, in small ways) certainly was in the millimeter range and I HAD SYMPTOMS from the tumor not anxiety!  Had the "specialists" I saw over the 14 years been special, I doubt I would've lost hearing as this tumor could've been diagnosed earlier and I could've had treatment earlier before my hearing was damaged beyond repair.  What's happened with the "art of diagnosing"?  Doesn't the doctor believe the patient anymore or do they automatically assume gender + age = anxiety/stress = that was easy, now on to the next patient!  In a patient with a tumor growing for ten, twenty years or since childhood is, sort of, in an unknowing "Wait and Watch" and then the said tumor begins to press on nerves causing the patient to notice something is wrong, but the patient cannot put a finger on it, how does the doctor respond to a diagnosis of anxiety/stress as was told me for a few diagnosis? 

With symptoms of "beginning vertigo", when the tumor is beginning to grow, doesn't present itself in a "big" way such as is the case with detectable hearing loss and clearly understood by the patient as "hearing loss".  All the patient understands is something isn't right, their "off" and the feelings of fear comes from the unsteadiness of their balance from vertigo NOT anxiety or stress.  All I know about my history is I was diagnosed in 1991 with a brain tumor but tests (MRI w/o contrast) did not show a brain tumor, but the very clever doctor did listen to my symptoms and did know it was a brain tumor, but did not know to add contrast.  I spent 14 years feeling something wasn't right, I had incredible fear of heights, felt unsure of my movements and this was out of the normal for me as I used to scale 65 feet up a sailboat mast sitting their for hours working on rigging, my balance was impeccable having spent 7 years aboard a sailboat crossing oceans but always turned away from numerous doctors with the diagnosis of anxiety or stress.

I did have symptoms when my tumor was in the millimeter range and I did have symptoms that were irreversible with a "just medium-size tumor" (it just wasn't officially documented) so this comment goes to show that we (the patient) know our bodies and they (the doctors) make you question yourself thus leading to years of misdiagnosis with permanent damage. 

The "size doesn't matter" thought process is no longer "poo pooed" as now the specialists in AN's say "size does matter" when considering saving the facial nerve.  A 2 cm or larger tumor is now considered more seriously as this size causes real lasting problems to the patient's facial nerve.  Whether it's from treatment or whether it's from ignorance of doctors telling patients it's okay to "watch and wait" with a tumor 2 cm. 

At 1.3 cm, my facial nerve was becoming compromised.  I presented with drooling (slightly), couldn't hold a smile w/o my facial muscle cramping, eye lid drooping (slightly) all noticble to me, but hardly noticble to anyone else, except my dentist who noticed the sores in my mouth from my biting my cheek and lip.  I was told I could wait one year, but given the info from the ANA and patients and knowing my facial nerve was becoming involved I chose to treat at what some would consider a small size tumor.  One month before surgery different symptoms started with legs giving out, dry heaving and shortness of breath at times (remember a small to medium size).  Glad I didn't feel ashamed nor intimidated to wait any further just because others have bigger tumors or little to no symptoms with bigger tumors. 

Trust your own body!  Know that tumors growing on nerves do cause symptoms even when they are small (probably means they are growing) and this tumor is slow growing.  Don't wait too long if you know your size already given the "new" information from the recent Symposium.  I wonder if my hearing nerve could've been spared if my tumor was diagnosed when I presented with "slight" hearing loss with constant tinnitus.  I continue to know my treatment choice was the "right" choice for me also knowing that the discussion now on radiation therapy and recurrant tumors is changing.  The jury is still out on this one, but Dr. Friedman from House stated that he sees more patients with recurrant tumor growth that chose radiation therapy, does increase the odds for facial and hearing nerve damage when operating on a radiated field. 

As you can read I have issues with the doctors that use the "anxiety/stress" Dx.  I remain a happy, stress-less person (even though other symptoms begin to present themselves and I continue to go from one specialist to another now).  I have been 2.5 years post surgery teaching yoga and looking forward to becoming an Oma (grandma) this August. 
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