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My newbie story
« on: December 09, 2009, 02:47:53 am »
Hello everyone!
 
My name is Sophia and I am 31 years old living in the Los Angeles area. 8)

In May 2009, I noticed a change in my hearing. Specifically, my left ear started ringing suddenly and continued to do so...well...until today actually! When using a telephone, I found myself unable to use my left ear anymore as I could no longer decipher what the caller was saying. I had a sense of fullness in my ear and attributed all of these symptoms to possible ear wax. I flushed my ear out with Debrox to no avail and then worried myself into a panic thinking if I could have actually injured my eardrum with all of my efforts to remove non existent ear wax buildup!  :-[
 
One day in September 2009, after catching a cold, I woke up with an excruciating pain in my left ear. It literally felt as if someone was stabbing my ear with a knife! I ran to my primary doctor (Edwin Chan, Arcadia, CA) confident that I had an ear infection and left more confused when he said that "the ear looks fine." Being the wonderful doctor that he is, he referred me to an ENT (Leon Bachoura, Duarte, CA) to assess for a possible middle ear infection. I went to the ENT in October 2009 fully expecting to leave with a prescription for my "middle ear infection" and instead was told once again "the ear looks fine." I was sent for a hearing test and suddenly a wave of panic hit me.
 
Could something really be wrong?  :(
 
I had the hearing test. While in the sound proof booth, I didn't always hear the tones directed at my left ear but could usually feel the vibrations from the sound waves and so I pushed the buzzer which recorded that I heard a tone. Then the voice recognition test happened. When using only my left ear, I couldn't repeat the words the doctor asked me to repeat if you paid me $1,000. I started to cry as I thought to myself, "I am deaf!" (Not really)  :'(
 
The ENT informed me that I had "significant hearing loss" in my left ear and that I was going to need a hearing aid and he was ordering an MRI to make sure I didn't "have anything wrong with the brain."
 
WHAT?! SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY BRAIN?!  :o
 
After being reassured on the phone by my husband Greg, I scheduled another appointment with my primary doctor to have complete blood work done and scheduled the MRI. My bloodwork came back normal with no indications that my sudden hearing loss was due to any kind of autoimmune disease. I did my online research and was certain that I had an Acoustic Neuroma. The MRI completed on 10/20/09 confirmed a 1.3cm AN.
 
Since being diagnosed, I have started becoming more aware of my symptoms. The hearing loss is documented at 40% and the ringing is constant. But now, I've begun to notice when I misstep while walking the stairs and how I get dizzy while reading and question my sudden onsets of fatigue and the headaches that I previously thought were migraines. I now wonder if they are all related to the AN or is all of this just in my head?  :-\
 
I am blessed to be employed by the County of Los Angeles as a Children's Social Worker and therefore have excellent health insurance with Blue Shield. I did my research and requested a referral to the House Ear Clinic. I later learned that while the HEC is contracted with Blue Shield, they are not currently a part of my IPA HMO Network...Ugh! So the referral was taking longer than normal.
 
In the meantime, I had my primary doctor submit another referral to a neurosurgeon who is part of my IPA. I met with the neurosurgeon (William Caton III, Pasadena, CA) who explained that based on the location of my tumor, he would have to remove a good portion of my skull as that is where the majority of the tumor rests. This will certainly cause hearing loss and damage to the facial nerve. He recommends Cyberknife and fortunate for me he has his very own brand spanking new CK machine expected to be delivered in December 2009. I asked about surgery as an option and he said that while he is a good surgeon (chief of neurosurgery at Huntington Hospital, Pasadena, CA) willing to do surgery, he would advise CK.   

He referred me to a Radiation Oncologist (Albert Mak, Alhambra, CA) who during my consult informed me that he has "never" used the new CK machine arriving soon but has been using other radiosurgery methods for some time. My friend who went with me said "he's trying to say that he knows how to drive a car, he just has never driven THIS car." LOL! I asked a ton of questions and the doctor, trying to be funny, said, "I think you've asked enough questions" to which I responded, "It's my brain so I get to ask as many questions as I want!" He was nice, I think he was just not prepared for me  :D 

I went back to meet with the neurosurgeon who clarified that he is very experienced in CK and apparently has been using the CK machine at Stanford for the last 8 years. Now he has his own. He also clarified that he and the radiation oncologist and the physicist will be working together to develop the treatment plan which is proposed at 3 consecutive day sessions. I told him that I still have wicked headaches and he prescribed Ibuprofen and ordered some neck x-rays to make sure the source is not something else. I asked about getting a hearing aid and he explained that traditional hearing aids won't help because the damage was to the nerve. WHAT? I was under the assumption that I would have some treatment, whether surgery or radiation, and then get a hearing aid and move on. He explained that there were some devices that could help improve my hearing by using my good ear and that those could be discussed in the future. He also said that I might regain some hearing after the CK.

Could CK really be that great? It seems too good to be true.

My insurance finally sent me the denial for the HEC so I used my PPO option and today met the famous Dr. House, (like my favorite TV show...lol). He advised surgery, specifically Translab. He said that there are unknown risks with radiation and advised surgery. He said I was a good candidate for all 3 types of surgery it was just a matter of preference and/or efforts to save my existing hearing. He reported that I could have a BAHA implanted at the same time as the surgery but wouldn't be fitted for the actual aid until a few weeks after the surgery. This means that I would likely be deaf in my left ear for a short period of time. I met with a surgery nurse who suggested having some diagnostic tests (hearing, reflex, brainstem) completed to determine which surgical approach would be the most beneficial. 

Instead of sending me to the HEC, my insurance gave me a referral to USC Head and Neck to meet with an otolarygologist (Dennis Meceri, Los Angeles, CA). I tried to schedule the appointment but was informed that the doctor doesn't schedule new patients until the authorization includes specific billing codes for treatment. So now I am trying to get my ENT to resubmit the request which include some diagnostic tests. Later this month have an appointment with another neurosurgeon (Gregory Withers, Arcadia, CA).

My husband wittily asked, "Do the other doctors have their own institute named after them with a giant model of the how the ear works?" I plan on appealing the insurance's denial and don't really want to proceed with HEC right now since I would have to pay 20% of the bill...ouch! 
 
I will admit that all of the information, while very helpful, is overwhelming. What did people do before the internet?  :D

When I was diagnosed in October, I was in the process of transferring to a specialized unit at work and as a result had just finished transferring all of my assigned cases. It seemed ideal to postpone my transfer and take a leave. I am currently home on disability to soak all of this in and come up with a treatment plan. My work requires me to drive, interview adults and children regarding abuse and/or neglect and I frequently testify in court, all of which needs me to be able to hear.

I am worried about long term effects of radiation and I don't like what I've read about the possible side effects of the steroids. I don't like the notion of having "brain surgery" especially since I have a 20 month old daughter that I would likely not be able to fully care for during recovery from surgery. I'm scared of the idea of being deaf in my ear and I like being able to smile so I don't want to chance facial nerve damage.

I'M SO CONFUSED!  ???

Could it be that all of my symptoms are related to the AN? It seems like everything is getting worse...or am I just more aware of it all now? Either way, the headaches are the worst! I feel like someone hit me with a baseball bat at the back of my head. My neck is stiff and I want to just push on the base of my skull.

Thanks for letting me vent and share my story...despite the end remaining uncertain.   

Sophia (mssophy)
1.3 cm AN left side diagnosed 10/20/09
Sophia (mssophy) age 36
1.3 cm AN left side diagnosed 10/20/09. Was undecided then surgery was postponed due to pregnancy. Tumor removed 02/14/12 at USC. Deaf in AN ear. Baha implant but no device yet. New symptoms in 2014; possible regrowth; pending MRI

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 03:43:53 am »
Hi Sophia

Im Jacqui and I live in New Zealand.

 I too have pretty much the same story as you....hearing loss and tinnitus in my left ear.  I went to the doctors firstly in 2007 with a blocked ear.  I had just had a cold so they didnt think too much of it nor did I actually.  I went to the doctors again and they looked at it and prescribed my hayfever medicine to unblock my Eustachian tube.  After that didnt work I went again and once again they prescribed my "Otravine" which is a nasal spray.  Finally this year my balance started to go awry.  At first I thought I was just being a clutz.  I started taking it a bit more serious when I fell onto my fireplace and burnt my back.  I went to doctors again about my ear, still not connecting balance with my ear though.  I cried and had a fit and the doctor thought that I might have Meniere's Disease so I got sent to a ENT specialist.  The specialist didnt say much as he wanted blood tests, hearing tests and a MRI before he would say anything.  I got the impression he thought I was being a hyperchondriac.

Anyway my hearing test was exactly like yours and blood tests were fine.  I had the MRI on the 30th Nov this year and it revealed an Accoustic Neuroma but mine is 4cm. I am still reeling from shock and I have to now have a CT scan which is tomorrow morning.  I have been referred to another specialist which is a 5 hour drive from here.  I see him on the 15th.   At the moment I feel like I am in limbo and I am really scared about the whole thing. They are concerned about the size of mine.  I guess once I talk to specialist I will feel a bit better.  I feel alone as no one here knows what I am going through.

I was glad to read your story as it is similar to mine and its good to know I am not alone, so thankyou for sharing I hope all goes well for you.

J
3.6cm AN Left side diagnosed Dec 09.
Translab surgery 16th March 2010
Left SSD, Facial Paralysis
CSF Leak surgery 11th May 2010

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 03:56:31 am »
OMG! (Oh My God)
I'm glad my story helped. You burned your back! How awful!
I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through all of that. At least now you know what is wrong. The worst feeling is knowing inside that something is wrong and not having a diagnosis. I know what you mean about being a hypochondriac! I'm so happy that I have an excellent primary doctor that doesn't mind when I come in so frequently. I have always been worried about my health and I think that is why I was quick to react when I noticed something off with my hearing a few months back. I would probably be where you are now if I didn't have such a great primary doctor. I could see how people and doctors dismiss the symptoms regarding hearing and/or balance since they usually aren't significantly impairing daily routine and having an AN is rare compared to the millions of other sources for such symptoms. I look forward to taking this journey with you. While you and I have yet to go down the road, I take confort in knowing that many others have and in the end we are still alive!
Sophia (mssophy) age 36
1.3 cm AN left side diagnosed 10/20/09. Was undecided then surgery was postponed due to pregnancy. Tumor removed 02/14/12 at USC. Deaf in AN ear. Baha implant but no device yet. New symptoms in 2014; possible regrowth; pending MRI

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 04:04:50 am »
Sometimes I think it was my own fault. I didnt push the subject because nothing bad could ever happened to me.  I was the epitome of fitness and health.  I was a competitive body builder.  Infallible really.  When my specialist called to tell me I had a tumour he even admitted to me that he didnt believe anything was wrong.  He said he gets a lot of people in who say they are dizzy and most of the time they show nothing it the tests but I think he woke up when a 4cm AN was staring back at him!  My GP said if she ordered a MRI for everyone who said they had a blocked ear she was send quite a few of them to hospital each week. 

After reading stuff from this forum, I am really starting to panic.  How deformed is my brainstem??
3.6cm AN Left side diagnosed Dec 09.
Translab surgery 16th March 2010
Left SSD, Facial Paralysis
CSF Leak surgery 11th May 2010

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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 04:29:42 am »
I know it's scary. I did read earlier on another thread that your brainstem will fix itself after the tumor is removed so that is one less thing to worry about.
My ENT said the same thing about the MRI for everyone thing. The squeaky wheel gets the oil, eh?
We'll be okay. Try to stay positive. We can't change what we did or didn't already do to this point. We can only look forward.
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1.3 cm AN left side diagnosed 10/20/09. Was undecided then surgery was postponed due to pregnancy. Tumor removed 02/14/12 at USC. Deaf in AN ear. Baha implant but no device yet. New symptoms in 2014; possible regrowth; pending MRI

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 06:53:30 am »
Hey Sophia and welcome! It's Phyl from the CK forum :)  Glad you found us and as you read about me, CK certainly worked for me and am now approaching 4 yrs post-CK. I'm glad you found us and hoping that you find the info and support you have been seeking.  Many on this site that have had CK (and other forms of radiation done). Please take time to view the "Radiation/Radiosurgery" forum for info from many.

Welcome! Good to see you!
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 06:59:27 am »
Hi, Sophy and welcome.

Perhaps I missed it in your rather lengthy post, but have you talked to Dr. Chang @ Stanford? 

Deciding on the course of treatment for your AN is a very tough thing to do, but you'll get there in time.  Ultimately you need to do what is best for you - after doing your research.  With an AN your size, you should research both radiation and surgery. 

If you haven't already, you should contact the ANA for their literature.  You'll find it very helpful in your decision-making process.

Good luck,

Jan
Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
Left AN 3.0 cm (1.5 cm @ diagnosis 6 wks prior) SSD. BAHA implant 3/4/08 (Dr. Battista) Divino 6/4/08  BP100 4/2010 BAHA 5 8/2015

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 04:44:26 pm »
Hi Sophy,

Sorry you have to join this crazy club, but so GLAD you have found this FANTASTIC group - they are my heroes!
Don't forget to take a break from all the information overload - it takes some time to absorb everything.
You will know the right decision when you get there - lots here describe it as 'going with your gut.'

Keep the questions coming and search out the most experienced doctors. 
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Kiwi - i see you are new here, too - welcome, welcome!  Best wishes for your doc visit on the 15th. 
I pray he can answer all your questions.  Try to write them all down, i think this is helpful. 

Keep in touch and let us know how you are doing.
Prayers all around and stay strong.

Sincerely,
Sue



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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 05:31:57 pm »
Hi, Sophy ~

I'm sorry to learn of your AN diagnosis but I'm pleased that you found the ANA website, registered and posted your comprehensive account of your AN journey to date.  It was very informative.  

Your fears are very normal and once you have some answers, I'm sure you'll feel calmer.  The reality is that there isn't a 'magic bullet' for treating an acoustic neuroma and there will be some inherent risks in whatever you decide to do as a treatment (surgery or radiation) and that you'll eventually have to make some difficult choices.  I don't have any specific advice for you at this juncture but I know you'll pursue all your options and we'll be eager to add whatever we can as you move forward.  Please consider these forums as a resource and know that you're part of a very friendly, knowledgeable and compassionate family, who have all been where you are now and understand your feelings - and want to help in whatever way they can.

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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 08:00:48 pm »
Hi Sophie,

I had CK almost 18 months ago and have had a VERY good outcome. My balance has gotten much better and hearing has only gotten alittle bit worse.  The tumor is shrinking and is dying.  I did alot of research and just felt the CK was best for me. I did not want to have to go through the surgery, the possible facial nerve paralyisis and the possilbe regrowth that can happen and the SSD.  I felt the risk of the radiation was not as a concern as the results that can happen with surgery. I know there are alot of people with great surgical results, but I have also talked to and seen others that are facing surgery again as a result of regrowth. Good luck with your decision. If you would like to talk to me more you can send me a person message.
Hang in!!!
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 11:32:29 pm »
Thank you everyone!

I am feeling much better today than yesterday in part because I was reviewing a lot of discussions on this site. Super encouraging!

Kiwi,
I'm glad I was up so late last night that we could chat.

Phyl,
Thanks for the heads up on this forum. I like it much better.

Jan,
I'm sorry for my novel...I talk a lot in person and it translated to text...lol.
To clarify, my primary doc's name is Chan and the surgeon I initially saw has used the CK in Stanford.


Sue,
I took a break from it all today and went to a movie alone while my daughter was at daycare. It was just what I needed.

Jim,
I appreciate your honesty. You're right, there will be risks whatever I decide. Funny, but that actually helped me feel better. Less pressure to choose "the right" option.

Sherry,
While I am considering CK so as to avoid surgery and be away from my daughter, I am concerned that I might become very anxious waiting for the next MRI results. I don't want to end up consumed by worry whenever I "feel something" knowing that the tumor is still in my head and "possibly" still growing.
Were you anxious at all during the last 18 months?
Sophia (mssophy) age 36
1.3 cm AN left side diagnosed 10/20/09. Was undecided then surgery was postponed due to pregnancy. Tumor removed 02/14/12 at USC. Deaf in AN ear. Baha implant but no device yet. New symptoms in 2014; possible regrowth; pending MRI

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 02:58:21 am »
hi Sophy

I'm glad we could chat too, you have helped me a lot and I thank you.  Keep in touch.
3.6cm AN Left side diagnosed Dec 09.
Translab surgery 16th March 2010
Left SSD, Facial Paralysis
CSF Leak surgery 11th May 2010

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2009, 06:15:20 am »
Hi Sophy,

Welcome. I am glad you found this forum. Your symptoms sound way too familiar. I have had headaches for who knows how long, migraines. For the past two years I would wake up at night with throbbing ear pain. I would go to my GP he would check my ear and say there is nothing wrong, probably sinus related. The pain would be so bad, exactly how you described it, a stabbing pain. I still get them not so much at night for some reason but during the day. I have never taken so much advil as now. Anyway, I too went through the same experience, the gradual hearing loss, the fullness, all this after a cold. When the symptoms didn't clear up I had an MRI and although both my ENT and GP were almost certain they did not expect anything, guess what, I was diagnosed with a CPA Meningioma which is very similar to an AN, same pathology, just the location is different. Mine grows downward to the facial nerve rather than upward to the brain stem. Anyway, it has now been 8 months. I am a little bit less freaked out, and my next MRI will be in May 09 at which time it will be determined whether or not I should be treated. I am looking at Gammaknife as this is the only radiosurgery we have here in Canada. I was also disapointed to find out that regular hearing aids don't work. But at least there are a couple of hearing aids out there that will. Anyway, this is a great place to get information and talk to others. I don't know what i would have done without this forum. Hang in there. All will be fine.

Vivian
CPA AN(most likely meningioma) 1.6cm by 1.5cm by 1.9cm diagnosed early March 09. Watch and Wait.

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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 02:29:04 pm »
While I am considering CK so as to avoid surgery and be away from my daughter, I am concerned that I might become very anxious waiting for the next MRI results. I don't want to end up consumed by worry whenever I "feel something" knowing that the tumor is still in my head and "possibly" still growing.
Were you anxious at all during the last 18 months?


Of course the decision is very personal, and everyone eventually makes the  choice that they feel most comfortable with. It is the "gut feeling" that lots of people talk about here.
It is my personal observation that no matter what the choice of treatment, some followup anxiety is inherent when dealing with an AN. It may be  whether the AN is growing or shrinking is you chose radiation, or whether there is regrowth in case of surgery, or whether the nerves are going to heal or whatever. It is one thing or another, and we ANers have to learn to live with this. The same goes with weird feelings, symptoms, sensations, they can always appear and they are always the cause of anxiety.
I guess what I am trying to say is don't make a choice based on "wanting to be worry free", because unfortunately this may not be possible. Do as much research as possible and gather your information and then you can make an informed choice. Different people have different circumstances, that may affect their choice (if we assume that the size is such that all treatment choices are possible). For example I have two young children and not much family support around, which was largely a factor when choosing to go with GK. Some people cannot tolerate the concept of having a tumor in their head, and they want it out, in which case surgery is the appropriate choice.

All the best,
Marianna


GK on April 23rd 2008 for 2.9 cm AN at Toronto Western Hospital. Subsequent MRIs showed darkening initially, then growth. Retrosigmoid surgery on April 26th, 2011 with Drs. Akagami and Westerberg at Vancouver General Hospital. Graduallly lost hearing after GK and now SSD but no other issues.

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 08:32:28 pm »
Sophy -

no offense meant when mentioning your "novel" - I talk a lot myself  ;D  Hope I didn't offend you.

I just didn't want to suggest a doc you had already consulted.  And sometimes I read posts - and reply - in the wee hours of the morning so I miss a thing or two that I might otherwise catch when my eyes are fully opened  ;D

I guess my point is, Dr. Chang @ Stanford is a wonderful doctor from what I've heard and if you are undecided on a) treatment and/or b) who will treat your AN you might want to schedule an appointment with him.

Good luck,

Jan
Retrosig 5/31/07 Drs. Battista & Kazan (Hinsdale, Illinois)
Left AN 3.0 cm (1.5 cm @ diagnosis 6 wks prior) SSD. BAHA implant 3/4/08 (Dr. Battista) Divino 6/4/08  BP100 4/2010 BAHA 5 8/2015

I don't actually "make" trouble..just kind of attract it, fine tune it, and apply it in new and exciting ways