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choosing a doctor
« on: March 26, 2010, 06:23:51 pm »
Thank you everyone for this fabulous forum.  As a newbie I can't tell you how much this has helped.  What I need to know is how do I choose a doctor.  What exactly am I looking for.  What I mean is we are going to see another neurosurgeon this week.  The first neurosurgeon was not comfortable doing it because the tumor is large 3.5x2.6x2.0.  He is referring us to someone else.  Are there specific questions that you would definitely ask?  How many would you see? 

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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 06:54:16 pm »
Deciding on a treatment option and choosing a doctor have to be two of the most frustrating aspects to this whole AN journey.  When I was diagnosed, I point blank asked the diagnosing doctor what he would do and who he would want to do it if his wife was diagnosed with an AN.  Then I asked all of the medically trained acquaintances I could find and asked all of them the same question.  I also looked up everything I could find online.  I put it all together and ultimately chose surgery with Dr. Takanori Fukushima at Duke University.  I have never regretted anything about it for a minute.

As for how many doctors, the main thing to keep in mind is that you want someone with vast experience in treatment of acoustic neuromas, in other words, having treated hundreds of patients with ANs, not just a few.  Most facilities or physicians that have treated large numbers of ANs, will evaluate your CD free of charge and give you their recommendation for treatment.  Keep in mind that many times, they will recommend the treatment with which they are most comfortable.  How many you confer with is your call, but at some point in time you will know what feels right for you.

Best wishes and prayers for soon knowing what is the right decision.

Clarice
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Left retrosigmoid 2.6 cm AN removal, February, 2008, Duke U
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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2010, 08:36:18 pm »
I agree with Clarice.  Choosing treatment and choosing a doctor (or doctors) are THE hardest parts of the AN Journey.

The size of your tumor pretty much precludes you from radiation, so your treatment choice has been made for you.

As for a doctor, I'm one who went with my "gut".  I actually only consulted with one doctor - a neurotologist recommended by my ENT - who does both radiation and surgery.  I decided at my first appointment that he was "the one" for me.  He was very reassuring (while I was freaked out), he took lots of time with me explaining my options, he was caring, very low key, empathetic, and concerned about the fact that I'm a single mom raising two children all by myself.  He had lots of experience in treating ANs and I found that I had the utmost confidence in him and his skills, plus I felt very comfortable with him.  When I met my neurosurgeon (the only one my neurotologist will do surgery with) I had the same gut feeling.

In my opinion, you should consult with as many doctors as you feel is necessary based on how you feel about them.  You'll just "know" it when you find the one you want to perform your surgery.

Good luck,

Jan


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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 06:45:59 am »
Jan is right, you will just "know" when you have found the right surgeon for YOU. I struggled with the same thoughts and after 2 surgeons, my step father said to me that he thought I would just "know". And sure enough, after speaking with surgeon #3 on the phone (I was in Maine and he was in Oregon), I just knew he was the surgeon for me....and I never regretted my choice. Your mind will be great at over analyzing all of your options and all of the "what ifs". In addition to doing all of your research on each surgeon and asking all of your questions, it's a good idea to try to quiet your mind and listen to what your instincts are telling you.
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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2010, 09:40:31 am »
Are most surgeons open to reviewing your case if they are not in the locale?  We are in DE and I am looking at CA, PA, MD, VA and Boston.  It will be incredibly time consuming and expensive to travel to see all of them and unfortunately time is important here.   Has anyone just spoken to a surgeon on the phone and gone with them?  beachman

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2010, 09:45:39 am »
 I  know that many go to Dr Barker/Dr McKenna at MGH/MEEI in Boston. Also my friend Maire who is also on the forum went to Dr Black at Brigham &Womens in Boston-she was very pleased with Dr Black and is doing great! All have extensive AN expirence.
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2010, 09:54:11 am »
I meant to add that I only spoke with my surgeon on the phone prior to flying from Maine to Oregon to have surgery with him. I did not think twice about doing that-it felt like the best choice for me.  I was given a small window of time to have my surgery but it was worth it to me to feel good about my choice. I met my surgeon in person on a Friday and had surgery the following Monday. Even two years post op my surgeon still reviews my periodoc scans and we either talk on the phone or he emails me his thoughts. I do know that the Drs at House will review MRIs from all over the world and many here in the forum have traveled from all over to have surgery there.
Erin

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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2010, 12:52:47 pm »
Beachman ~

As you know by now, you're in the middle of one of the most difficult aspects of what we euphemistically call 'The AN Journey'.  Choosing a doctor is, by far, crucial to (a) having a satisfactory surgery result; tumor gone, few-or-no complications and, (b) feeling confident about the process, which can be intimidating.  After all, this is brain surgery and if you don't have total confidence in your doctor, you'll be more anxious than is good for you, going in.  Of course, even the best, most experienced surgeon cannot guarantee the outcome of your surgery but you can definitely increase the chances of having few post-op problems with an AN-experienced doctor on your team. 

I'm a tad skeptical about flying around the country to have physician consultations.  You're right, it's expensive and time consuming.  The House Ear Institute in sunny Los Angeles, California is the favored facility for many AN surgical patients and they'll analyze your (mailed) MRI scan and call you back with a recommendation.  However, there are excellent surgeons with experience in AN removals throughout the country.  I would consider consulting the local medical society for referrals and ask any doctors or nurses that you may know for names of surgeons that have experience with acoustic neuroma removal surgery.

Although the first neurosurgeon I consulted was clearly intimidated by my large (4.5 cm) AN and decidedly unenthusiastic about operating on me, I 'found' a superb neurosurgeon through my wife's neurosurgeon's secretary.  My wife's doctor didn't specialize in acoustic neuroma surgery; (he is a spinal specialist and performed 3 serious spinal surgeries on my wife over a 10-year period) but when my wife called seeking a referral to a qualified surgeon that handled AN patients, the secretary exclaimed that "one of the best in the state is part of this practice" and she transferred the call to this neurosurgeon's office.  We were given VIP treatment (an immediate appointment for the next morning) and I found the doctor to be kind and compassionate with a 'game plan' already drawn up when I saw him.  He had been performing AN surgery for 3 decades and was revered in the practice and as I later found, by the hospital staff.  I was told by various hospital nurses - more than once - "you have the best doctor for your condition (AN) that you could have".  The good doctor proved to be all that and I had a successful debulking surgery with minimal post-op issues.  Three months later, I underwent successful FSR treatments, jointly programmed by a brilliant radiation oncologist and my much-admired neurosurgeon. 

I offer this personal history to make the point that excellent AN-experienced doctors are, if not ubiquitous, also not so rare as to be difficult to locate (with some effort) and you shouldn't have to traipse all over the country to find one.  I admit that, in a sense, I got 'lucky'.  However, I was fully prepared to contact the local medical society and ask a family friend who is an RN and, after a 30-year career, knows all the local doctors. Perhaps you may find it necessary to travel a long distance to settle on a doctor with the experience and personality that suits your needs.  However, as other posters have noted, physician phone consults are fairly common today and I would certainly pursue that avenue of exploration as you seek a doctor.  I wish you success and hope to read an update when you find a surgeon that you're confident with.

Jim
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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2010, 02:54:07 pm »
Go with your instinct...The ENT who found my AN on the MRI referred me to the oto he had trained under. The ENT called the surgeon, on his cell when we were in the office and made us an appt for the following day. The surgeon typically did not see patients that day but made an exception for us. The surgeon (and his resident) were so patient with us, they answered all our questions, told us to call anytime with more questions and spent a considerable amount of time with us. The surgeon made a personal call to the neuro to schedule us an appt...the next day. The neuro was just as wonderful and was concerned about my mental health. That meant alot to me.

I felt very comfortable with both of them and after they spent 16 hours in surgery wtih me and got the whole thing out...I am glad I didn't question my decision. I just saw my oto a few weeks back for a 6 yr follow up appt. He definitely made us feel like we were important and not just "another patient."

Best of luck to you.....
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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2010, 03:07:23 pm »
Most facilities or physicians that have treated large numbers of ANs, will evaluate your CD free of charge and give you their recommendation for treatment.  Keep in mind that many times, they will recommend the treatment with which they are most comfortable. 
Clarice

I should have included that you can mail your MRI CD to these physicians ...... you do not need to physically be present for an evaluation.  Not to be pushing North Carolina, where I had my surgery, but it is relatively close to Delaware and would be drivable if you chose to go there.

Best wishes.  Clarice
Right MVD for trigeminal neuralgia, 1994, Pittsburgh, PA
Left retrosigmoid 2.6 cm AN removal, February, 2008, Duke U
Tumor regrew to 1.3 cm in February, 2011
Translab AN removal, May, 2011 at HEI, Friedman & Schwartz
Oticon Ponto Pro abutment implant at same time; processor added August, 2011

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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2010, 05:28:32 pm »
I  know that many go to Dr Barker/Dr McKenna at MGH/MEEI in Boston. Also my friend Maire who is also on the forum went to Dr Black at Brigham &Womens in Boston-she was very pleased with Dr Black and is doing great! All have extensive AN expirence.
Erin

Hey Erin and all,

Just FYI only... Dr. Peter Black of Brigham/Woman's is currently do VERY extensive global travels right now and has Dr. Elizabeth Claus helping with coverage in his absence. Have talked to Marie and her post-surgical with Claus is upcoming. Claus is my NS and informed me of this update last week.

Hi Beachman,

In agreement with all that has been said here... you noted Boston and many of us local to Boston can attest to the medical mecca in which we live, with all forms of AN treatments offered here.  MGH/MEEI Drs Barker/McKenna are definately doing many AN surgeries.... MGH and Beth Israel doing a lot of AN radiation (myself included, 4 yrs ago).  Too many local folks can attest to the AN treatments offered here.

Go with your gut is the best advise I can give, based on their experiences in treating AN's... as well as your comfort level. 

Hang in there... and welcome.
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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 06:35:37 am »
Hi Beachman,

Living just on the other side of the Bay Bridge from you, and having grown up in Balto, I've always known that Johns Hopkins is high on everyone's list .... worldwide.  I don't think you can go wrong consulting with them.  My neurosurgeon at JH is Henry Brem, head of the neurosurgery dept. 

Also, the U of MD's Hearing and Balance center is worth a look.

Best to ya!
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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 07:32:01 am »
Well with everyone's help I think we have narrowed down our choices to look at.  House, Jeff, Mass and Hopkins.  Hopefully we willl decide within the next two weeks.  I know we have to go to Jeff but will check in with the others about sending the MRIs and phone consults.  Any suggestions for phone consults?  I have my list of questions.  How is it possible though to keep all the info straight.    \ :)

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 09:02:55 am »
Beachman
I have a binder that has different tabs and pockets to help keep all of my AN realted info straight. It was the only way! Aside from the usaul AN questions like how many AN's do you do a year? etc, I would suggest asking things like:
How soon after being released  from the hospital is it ok to travel home? This will help you plan how long you will be away from home and help when making travel arrangements.
What type of post operative care will I need after being home? How will the surgeon follow my recovery?
How will I communicate with you with any issues or concerns once I am home? I can email or page my surgeon anytime which was comforting especially early in my recovery.
What types of pre-operative clinical evals and testing will be required?
If I need medication post opreratively, how do I get refills?

The surgeon's assistant should be able to help you co-ordinate scheduling pre-op visits/testing with your arrival and surgery date as well as provide you info in places to stay, eat etc that are close to the hospital. I know from expirence that MGH/MEEI provide an extensive packet for people coming from out of town for treatment. From what I have read House is excellent with logistics of out of town patients as well.  The surgeon's assistant will be a huge help to you so make him/her your new best friend! I felt like my family I barely had to lift a finger because my surgeon's assistant Christine was so excellent.

Erin

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Re: choosing a doctor
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 06:49:38 am »
Well with everyone's help I think we have narrowed down our choices to look at.  House, Jeff, Mass and Hopkins.  Hopefully we willl decide within the next two weeks.  I know we have to go to Jeff but will check in with the others about sending the MRIs and phone consults.  Any suggestions for phone consults?  I have my list of questions.  How is it possible though to keep all the info straight.    \ :)

I printed off a list of questions for each doctor and wrote them write on that piece of paper plus any other info I felt was pertinent.

You have selecte some great facilities.

All the best..
Kate
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