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mwatto

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Estrogen and VS
« on: June 26, 2022, 02:03:01 am »
Vestibular schwannomas have been noted to have increased frequency and aggressivity in female patients, suggesting a possible role of estrogen. This study evaluated the effects of estrogen and tamoxifen on the growth of human vestibular schwannoma tissue implanted in subcutaneous pockets of nude mice. Animals were implanted with 1 of 3 human vestibular schwannomas and observed for 28 days. Mice were then separated into 3 treatment groups: controls, estrogen (receiving 1.7 mg of 17B-estradiol), and estrogen + tamoxifen (receiving 1.7 mg of 17B-estradiol + 10 mg of tamoxifen), and treated for 28 days. Mice treated with estrogen showed increased growth that was statistically significant (P < 0.05) when compared with that of both the controls and the animals treated with estrogen + tamoxifen. Controls and animals treated with estrogen + tamoxifen showed a general trend of decreased volume during the treatment period. These early results support the hypothesis that estrogen modulates the growth of vestibular schwannomas in the nude mouse model and that these effects can be blocked by tamoxifen administration.
Michele
20 x19x14mm Cystic AN diagnosed Feb 2019. CK.
Mri 2019 shrinking: 18x17x13 mm.
Mri 2020 - no cysts visible stable.
MRI 2021 stable no change
MRI 2022 stable no change.
MRI 2023 Further reduction 12x12x10mm!! Hearing 85%
MRI 2024: No change AN or hearing

bonnieD

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Re: Estrogen and VS
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2022, 03:59:40 pm »
Can you kindly translate this for the non-medical folks like me? 😁
Fall 2007 - Tinnitus started
June 2022 - 45 Yrs Old. Diagnosed left ear AN

2.3 x 2.2 x 1.6 cm

Symptoms:  Some numbness in left tonsil and tongue, pressure and mild headaches, more hearing loss, and dizzy spells.  Also... High MCV (enlarged red blood cells) but no cause. Anyone else?

donjehle

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Re: Estrogen and VS
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2022, 06:17:45 pm »
Where can we find the study, Michele?  Thanks for telling us about it.
Burning Tongue, Loss of Hearing & Balance, and Tinnitus led to MRI. Very small AN found on 11/23/2021
While watching and waiting, lost significant hearing. WRS now at 12% (down from 100%). Was fitted with CROS system on 3/7/22.  Stable MRI on 7/29/22
No treatment yet.

mwatto

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Michele
20 x19x14mm Cystic AN diagnosed Feb 2019. CK.
Mri 2019 shrinking: 18x17x13 mm.
Mri 2020 - no cysts visible stable.
MRI 2021 stable no change
MRI 2022 stable no change.
MRI 2023 Further reduction 12x12x10mm!! Hearing 85%
MRI 2024: No change AN or hearing

donjehle

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Re: Estrogen and VS
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2022, 12:18:52 pm »
Thank you, Michele!
Burning Tongue, Loss of Hearing & Balance, and Tinnitus led to MRI. Very small AN found on 11/23/2021
While watching and waiting, lost significant hearing. WRS now at 12% (down from 100%). Was fitted with CROS system on 3/7/22.  Stable MRI on 7/29/22
No treatment yet.

notaclone13

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Re: Estrogen and VS
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2022, 04:32:10 pm »
A few years ago, when I was first diagnosed, there was a publication suggesting the drug mifepristone might have activity against acoustic neuromas. But as far as I know, nothing ever came out of it. Mifepristone is a progesterone blocker.  I also remember reading that there is some evidence to suggest that acoustic neuromas develop during pregnancy. Here’s the citation regarding mifepristone.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180403115950.htm

mwatto

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Re: Estrogen and VS
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2022, 10:48:19 pm »
Yes I actually asked for that drug before I had CK. My specialist said no- said it could cause a brain bleed and too risky...I then wrote to the researchers Stankovich she said sorry not yet available for that anyway. So am interested to reaad on Tamoxifen
Michele
20 x19x14mm Cystic AN diagnosed Feb 2019. CK.
Mri 2019 shrinking: 18x17x13 mm.
Mri 2020 - no cysts visible stable.
MRI 2021 stable no change
MRI 2022 stable no change.
MRI 2023 Further reduction 12x12x10mm!! Hearing 85%
MRI 2024: No change AN or hearing