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Legally, Can I be fired?
« on: September 22, 2005, 02:55:28 pm »
Hi all, I'm heading into the second stage of a two stage surgery meaning I had my first surgery last year to remove 70% of my tumor and had complications so I was out of work for about 4 months (Oct-Feb). My Docs have told me that after my next MRI (In December) we'd have to schedule the second stage of the surgery, or, my second brain surgery. Anyway, upon telling this to my immediate supervisor he had mentioned that last time I was out (for 4 months) my CEO grew very frustrated and that this time he wanted me to be "prepared" should something happen (termination). Not that anything has been mentioned to him yet, but I could see my CEO pulling this kind of crap. My question is wether or not they can legally do this if they have no other grounds than my medical leave/time off? It's not like this is something I can prevent or avoid, so I've got to be protected by law, wouldn't you think? I'm ignorant with this kind of stuff, could anyone out there shed any light?

Thanks!

Scott
3.5 CM Partially Removed
October 7th, 2004 - Providence Hospital, Southfield, MI
Dr. Pieper & Dr. LaRouere

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Re: Legally, Can I be fired?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2005, 03:04:35 pm »
Scott,

My surgery is coming up, on November 7.  I've taken the time to apply for FMLA, Family Medical Leave Act, which prevents you from being fired due to a medical/family emergency.  There are some limitations about length of employment and length of absence, but if you do fall under FMLA protection, your employer cannot terminate your job.  You may, at your employer's discretion, be placed in a different position, but you salary and benefits must remain the same.  (My wife has worked extensively in HR for a couple different large corporations - she helped me file the paperwork for my case.)

Check out: http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla

Hope it works out for you.  Good luck!

Josh
3.5 cm right AN.  Surgery 11/7/05, modified translab.  As recovered as I'd ever hoped to be.

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Re: Legally, Can I be fired?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2005, 03:29:26 pm »
FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
Employment Standards Administration
Fact Sheet No. ESA 93-24
The Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 (FMLA) was enacted on February 5, 1993.

The new law is effective on August 5, 1993, for most employers. If a collective bargaining agreement (CBA) is in effect on that date, the Act becomes effective on the expiration date of the CBA or February 5, 1994, whichever is earlier.

The U.S. Department of Labor's Employment Standards Administration, Wage and Hour Division, administers and enforces FMLA for all private, state and local government employees, and some federal employees.

FMLA entitles eligible employees to take up to 12 weeks of unpaid, job-protected leave each year for specified family and medical reasons. An eligible employee's right to FMLA leave begins on August 5, 1993; any leave taken before that date does not count as FMLA leave.

The law contains provisions on employer coverage; employee eligibility for the law's benefits; entitlement to leave, maintenance of health benefits during leave, and job restoration after leave; notice and certification of the need for FMLA leave; and, protections for employees who request or take FMLA leave. The law also requires employers to keep certain records.

EMPLOYER COVERAGE

FMLA applies to all:

- public agencies, including state, local and federal employers, local education agencies (schools) and
- private-sector employers who employed 50 or more employees in 20 or more workweeks in the current or preceding calendar year and who are engaged in commerce or in any industry or activity affecting commerce including joint employers and successors of covered employers.
EMPLOYEE ELIGIBILITY

To be eligible for FMLA benefits, an employee must:

(1) work for a covered employer;
(2) have worked for the employer for a total of at least 12 months;
(3) have worked at least 1,250 hours over the previous 12 months; and
(4) work at a location where at least 50 employees are employed by the employer within 75 miles.
Most federal and certain congressional employees are also covered by the law and are subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management and the Congress.

LEAVE ENTITLEMENT

A covered employer must grant an eligible employee up to a total of 12 workweeks of unpaid leave during any 12-month period for one or more of the following reasons:

- for the birth or placement of a child for adoption or foster care;
- to care for an immediate family member (spouse, child, or parent) with a serious health condition; or
- to take medical leave when the employee is unable to work because of a serious health condition.
Spouses employed by the same employer are jointly entitled to a combined total of 12 workweeks of family leave for the birth or placement of a child for adoption or foster care, and to care for a parent (but not a parent-in-law) who has a serious health condition.

Leave for birth or placement for adoption or foster care must conclude within 12 months of the birth or placement.

Under some circumstances, employees may take FMLA leave intermittently --which means taking leave in blocks of time, or by reducing their normal weekly or daily work schedule.

- If FMLA leave is for birth or placement for adoption or foster care, use of intermittent leave is subject to the employer's approval.
- FMLA leave may be taken intermittently whenever medically necessary to care for a seriously ill family member, or because the employee is seriously ill and unable to work.
Also, subject to certain conditions, employees or employers may choose to use accrued paid leave (such as sick or vacation leave) to cover some or all of the FMLA leave. The employer is responsible for designating if an employee's use of paid leave counts as FMLA leave, based on information from the employee. In no case can use of paid leave be credited as FMLA leave after the leave has ended.

"Serious health condition" means an illness, injury, impairment, or physical or mental condition that involves:

- any period of incapacity or treatment connected with inpatient care (i.e., an overnight stay) in a hospital, hospice, or residential medical-care facility;
- any period of incapacity requiring absence of more than three calendar days from work, school, or other regular daily activities that also involves continuing treatment by (or under the supervision of) a health care provider; or
- continuing treatment by (or under the supervision of) a health care provider for a chronic or long-term health condition that is incurable or so serious that, if not treated, would likely result in a period of incapacity of more than three calendar days, and for prenatal care.
"Health care provider" means:

- doctors of medicine or osteopathy authorized to practice medicine or surgery by the state in which the doctor practices; or
- podiatrists, dentists, clinical psychologists, optometrists and chiropractors (limited to manual manipulation of the spine to correct a subluxation as demonstrated by X-ray to exist) authorized to practice, and performing within the scope of their practice, under state law; or,
- nurse practitioners and nurse-midwives authorized to practice, and performing within the scope of their practice, as defined under state law; or
- Christian Science practitioners listed with the First Church of Christ, Scientist in Boston, Massachusetts.
MAINTENANCE OF HEALTH BENEFITS
A covered employer is required to maintain group health insurance coverage for an employee on FMLA leave whenever such insurance was provided before the leave was taken and on the same terms as if the employee had continued to work. If applicable, arrangements will need to be made for employees to pay their share of health insurance premiums while on leave.

In some instances, the employer may re-cover premiums it paid to maintain health coverage for an employee who fails to return to work from FMLA leave.

JOB RESTORATION

Upon return from FMLA leave, an em-ployee must be restored to his or her original job, or to an equivalent job with equivalent pay, benefits, and other employment terms and conditions.

In addition, an employee's use of FMLA leave cannot result in the loss of any employment benefit that the employee earned or was entitled to before using FMLA leave.

Under specified and limited circumstances where restoration to employment will cause substantial and grievous economic injury to its operations, an employer may refuse to reinstate certain highly-paid "key" employees after using FMLA leave during which health coverage was maintained. In order to do so, the employer must:

- notify the employee of his/her status as a "key" employee in response to the employee's notice of intent to take FMLA leave;
- notify the employee as soon as the employer decides it will deny job restoration and explain the reasons for this decision;
- offer the employee a reasonable opportunity to return to work from FMLA leave after giving this notice; and
- make a final determination as to whether reinstatement will be denied at the end of the leave period if the employee then requests restoration.
A "key" employee is a salaried "eligible" employee who is among the highest paid ten percent of employees within 75 miles of the work site.


 

NOTICE AND CERTIFICATION
Employees seeking to use FMLA leave may be required to provide:

- 30-day advance notice of the need to take FMLA leave when the need is foreseeable;
- medical certifications supporting the need for leave due to a serious health condition affecting the employee or an immediate family member;
- second or third medical opinions and periodic recertifications (at the employer's expense); and
- periodic reports during FMLA leave regarding the employee's status and intent to return to work.
When leave is needed to care for an immediate family member or the employee's own illness, and is for planned medical treatment, the employee must try to schedule treatment so as not to unduly disrupt the employer's operation.

Covered employers must post a notice approved by the Secretary of Labor explaining rights and responsibilities under FMLA. An employer that willfully violates this posting requirement may be subject to a fine of up to $100 for each separate offense.

Also, covered employers must inform employees of their rights and responsibilities under FMLA, including giving specific information when an employee gives notice of FMLA leave on what is required of the employee and what might happen in certain circumstances, such as if the employee fails to return to work after FMLA leave.

 

UNLAWFUL ACTS
It is unlawful for any employer to interfere with, restrain, or deny the exercise of any right provided by FMLA. It is also unlawful for an employer to discharge or discriminate against any individual for pposing any practice, or because of involvement in any proceeding, related to FMLA.

ENFORCEMENT

FMLA is enforced, including investigation of complaints, by the U.S. Labor Department's Employment Standards Administration, Wage and Hour Division. If violations cannot be satisfactorily resolved, the Department may bring action in court to compel compliance. An eligible employee may also bring a private civil action against an employer for violations.

OTHER PROVISIONS

Special rules apply to employees of local education agencies. Generally, these rules provide for FMLA leave to be taken in blocks of time when intermittent leave is needed or the leave is required near the end of a school term.

Salaried executive, administrative, and professional employees of covered employers who meet the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) criteria for exemption from minimum wage and overtime under Regulations, 29 CFR Part 541, do not lose their FLSA-exempt status by using any unpaid FMLA leave. This special exception to the "salary basis" requirements for FLSA's exemption extends only to "eligible" employees' use of leave required by FMLA.

The FMLA does not affect any other federal or state law which prohibits discrimination, nor supersede any state or local law which provides greater family or medical leave protection. Nor does it affect an employer's obligation to provide greater leave rights under a collective bargaining agreement or employment benefit plan. The FMLA also encourages employers to provide more generous leave rights.

FURTHER INFORMATION

For more information, please contact the nearest office of the Wage and Hour Division, listed in most telephone directories under U.S. Government, Department of Labor, Employment Standards Administration.

This is one of a series of fact sheets highlighting U.S. Department of Labor Programs. It is intended as a general description only and does not carry the force of legal opinion.


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Re: Legally, Can I be fired?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2005, 04:23:32 pm »
FMLA will protect you for 12 weeks per year, however if you live in a state that has a labor law that makes it an "at will" state, you can be let go for any reason after your 12 weeks are up.

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Re: Legally, Can I be fired?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2005, 08:46:16 am »
Yes, you need to investigate your eligiblity for family leave, which would protect you somewhat. Also, I hope your doctors at least discussed or presented the option of some type of radiosurgery for you, which is a common follow-up to partial resections and would likely allow you to miss minimal work time.

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Re: Legally, Can I be fired?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2005, 09:15:22 am »
I was let go but I was not eligible for FMLA (I had not worked for the state for 12 months)   I was also under probation since I was diagnosed 1 week after my insurance coverage started at my new job.   I had only been there 3 months when I had surgery.

Good luck in your sitaution if they want to get rid of you they usually can but you can fight it.    You can demand reasonable accomidation thus getting the americans with disabilites act involved which makes you a protected class.   This makes it harder to get rid of you and then they will usually try to fire for cause so that they do not risk losing a discrimination suit.

But since I was fired and I even contacted lawyers regarding it.   They all said I may have had a case but it would be a long shot.    Your situation could be quite different though.

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Re: Legally, Can I be fired?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2005, 12:20:23 pm »
Hello again!

Becknell is right on - sorry it slipped my mind.  My own surgeon discussed this very option with me: surgery first, with monitoring afterwards.  Should the small bit of tumor regrow, Gammaknife it.  (Can we used Gammaknife as a verb?  I guess we can, now!)

Gamma shouldn't cause you to lose that much work time!

By the way, what company and CEO is this that would fire a tumor patient over treatment?  I'll assume that you're already a valuable employee (they hired you, didn't they?).  Personally, I'd take my business elsewhere if I knew that's how a company treated its employees.

Keep us posted!

Josh
3.5 cm right AN.  Surgery 11/7/05, modified translab.  As recovered as I'd ever hoped to be.