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Re: Silver dental fillings and health issues
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 08:37:10 am »
Hello Everyone,


Mercury has been linked to brain and kidney damage at certain levels.  Amalgams contain half mercury and half a combination of other metals.

Does anyone have any further and current information on this subject? 

People past the age of sixty need to have bloodwork drawn and tested.   (Creatine)  This is done to check their kidney's to see if they can handle the metal-injection at the time of their brain MRI.

Kidney disease is not a "death-sentence."  Yet, having kidney disease makes people who have "gadolinium" injected in connection with a MRI, at risk for NSF or NSD.  (Nephrogenic Systemic Fibrosis (NSF / NFD) and Gadolinium Contrast Dyes)

Creatine is made in the kidneys, liver, and pancreas and is very important in normal muscle functioning. Creatine is rapidly used during muscle contraction. Creatine levels increase when the muscles do not get enough nutrients, and during injury or trauma to muscles.  Creatine test helps to analyze impaired kidney functions and identify renal/kidney damage.  Creatine test measures the Creatine levels in the blood.

I contacted much mercury when I started in the dental-field.  I wondered at the time of diagnosis if that caused my AN.  There are just so many possibilities of the big question---"why did we have this tumor grow?"



Thank you for reading the article.......Palace






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Re: Silver dental fillings and health issues
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 10:30:00 am »
This issue has been around for a long time but it doesn't hurt to remind people.

From the article: "Only 30 percent of fillings given to patients were mercury-filled ones as of 2003."

It appears as if dentists and their patients are catching on to the risks of amalgams containing mercury.

I'm over 60 and have old fillings that very likely contain some mercury.  I had a pre-op CT scan that did find a 'mass' in my liver but that turned out to be a hemangioma (benign) and not a threat to my health as I was asymptomatic.  I doubt my dental fillings caused my AN to develop - but who really knows?  I don't.  I trust that some day medical science may find the actual cause, but I'm not over-confident of that happening in my lifetime. 

Thanks for the link, Palace.  :)

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Re: Silver dental fillings and health issues
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 03:15:08 pm »
Palace
Interesting link re/mercury in fillings. I don't think you can blame it on the AN or visa versa

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Re: Silver dental fillings and health issues
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2008, 04:28:47 pm »
It so happens I just had a dental cleaning and asked my hygienist about the one filling I have -- it is a silver amalgam with mercury.  She told me the amount was harmless and that I'd likely get more mercury exposure from eating tuna.  On the other hand, I recently had a conversation with a friend with serious joint problems.  He had been searching long and hard for a cure and only recently had his eleven fillings removed to see if the mercury in them might have been the cause.  Sure enough, he is on the road to recovery.   

I think I just convinced myself to get my filling replaced.   

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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2008, 04:52:56 pm »
Who knows what you can blame AN's on, but I recently had an old silver filling replaced and the dentist and the assistant both wore medical respirators so they would not breathe in any of the toxicity from the mercury - we're not talking just surgical masks here - but respirators we used to have to wear in the hospital when working with a patient on isolation for certain illnesses, such as active tuberculosis.

Kinda makes you wonder how that can be safe when it's in your mouth for many years.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 01:44:24 pm »

Who knows what you can blame AN's on, but I recently had an old silver filling replaced and the dentist and the assistant both wore medical respirators so they would not breathe in any of the toxicity from the mercury - we're not talking just surgical masks here - but respirators we used to have to wear in the hospital when working with a patient on isolation for certain illnesses, such as active tuberculosis.

Kinda makes you wonder how that can be safe when it's in your mouth for many years.

Lori

Lori:

Kinda makes me wonder how so-called dental professionals can act so foolishly and frighten their patients unnecessarily.

This is an old issue that got it's impetus almost 20 years ago when '60 Minutes' aired a segment that announced that the fillings in your teeth could poison you. Since then, the ADA and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services have studied this issue.  The government agency (Health and Human Services) concluded that "there is scant evidence that the health of the vast majority of people with amalgam is compromised or that removing fillings has a beneficial effect on health."  The American Dental Association stated (in 1998): "Millions of people have amalgam restorations in their mouths, and millions more will receive amalgam for restoring their carious [decayed] teeth. Over the years, amalgam has been used for dental restorations without evidence of major health problems. Newly developed techniques have demonstrated that minute levels of mercury are released from amalgam restorations, but no health consequences from exposure to such low levels of mercury released from amalgam restorations have been demonstrated. Given the available scientific information and considering the demonstrated benefits of dental amalgams, unless new scientific research dictates otherwise, there currently appears to be no justification for discontinuing the use of dental amalgam"

I have quite a few amalgam fillings and don't believe for a nanosecond they ever endangered my health or had the slightest connection to my AN developing.  I have absolutely no intention of replacing them.  I see no reason to do so.  Neither does my very well-educated and experienced dentist.  These  amalgams bond with each other, precluding almost any mercury from leeching into my system.  People are free to believe what they wish and do whatever they want with their amalgam fillings but I'll pass on removal - complete with gas masks on the attending dentist and hygienist, no less....how ridiculously melodramatic....and wait for some verifiable scientific, peer-tested proof of this contention, not some TV show looking for ratings.  Just my opinion, of course.  I could be wrong. 

Jim

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Re: Silver dental fillings and health issues
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2008, 06:48:00 pm »
Hi Jim.

Just now getting to this post too - man you miss a lot after one week of vacation without a computer!   ;D

Anyway, I wasn't really too worried about my dentist showing up beside the chair looking like an alien.  He's actually an excellent dentist and is very much into integrative dentistry - he has a traditional dentist in his office for the routine stuff but also works very closely with a holistic doctor, an herbalist and a chiropractor.  Sometimes he can sound a little out there, but he's a great dentist and has taken good care of the major dental problems I'm having since my surgery.  If you knew him, his space man mask wouldn't surprise you a bit either.  Like I said, a little bit out there, but whatever gets the job done!   :D  At least it's good for a little entertainment and distracts you from the fact that there's a power tool in your mouth.

He recently turned 55 and looks more like he's 35, so he may be on to something!   ;D 

Hey, Jan, I think he's single too!   ;)

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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2008, 10:08:08 pm »
Oooh, did I hear you say he's single, Lori?  LOL

I'm glad you finally got around to this post since it brings up a dental/BAHA question. 

I went to my dentist about a month ago - my first visit since my BAHA implant - for a routine cleaning.  Of course, I had to "advertise" my BAHA and play show & tell for him so he is now aware of my "new toy".

In the course of his exam, he decided that all the old silver fillings on my top teeth now have to be replaced - the bottom ones were replaced a few years ago.  He said when he replaces them, he'll have to be careful so that the "replacing" doesn't interfere with the sound of my BAHA.  This comment made no sense to me and I found it extremely strange.  I am clueless as to what he was referring to.  Would replacing my fillings somehow upset the way my BAHA works?  Have you ever heard of this  ???

I'm thinking he doesn't really know what he's talking about, but figured I'd throw it out there in case someone on the forum has heard of something like this happening.  I was thinking of asking my neurotologist about this, but decided the poor man needs a break from me and my questions  ::) 

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Re: Silver dental fillings and health issues
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2008, 10:41:45 am »
I've never heard that either.

Since the sound waves go through the bone towards the other ear, I don't think it would make a difference.  Maybe a tiny bit, but I doubt it would be noticeable.

I think you should ask your surgeon.  I'm sure he's used to off the wall questions from you!   :D

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2008, 12:10:20 pm »
Lori:

I've had those 'entertaining' doctors and dentists too.  I found their shenanigans got old, fast and their bills were sometimes higher than a more conventional doctor or dentist.  I'm sure your dentist is capable and intelligent but the respirator routine just seems way over the top, as if he were going to die from possible contact with a very minute amount of mercury in your filling  That is simply ridiculous.  However, if you found it entertaining, who am I to complain?  Obviously, your sense of humor surpasses mine and I respect that but I couldn't see this dentist and hygienist enter the room wearing respirators to extract an old almalgam filling and not wonder about their connection to reality, not to mention their attention to professional literature that has dealt with the mercury issue and found it mostly devoid of substance.  Still, if you're happy with this dentist and find him trustworthy, as you clearly do, that's great.  I was only offering my would-be reaction to a dentist wearing a full-blown respirator to show his fear of a tiny old filling that probably has less mercury in it than the seafood dinner he had last week. But thats just me. 

Jan:

I claim no expertise in dental or BAHA technology but your dentist sounds like he misunderstands how the BAHA device operates.  I would have asked him what he meant.  You can also consult your doctor, as Lori suggested. 

Jim
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Re: Silver dental fillings and health issues
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2008, 02:00:10 pm »
I couldn't open the link. I would love to read. Maybe you can repost the link? I'm sure you all know that there is a great deal of mercury in the fish we eat especially tuna. I believe mercury is one of those things that never leaves our bodies so I cannot see how anything good can arise from this but who knows the extent of possible damage? They also use mercury to preserve vaccinations. Some blame vaccinations for attention deficit disoorder. I have the old fashioned fillings that I am sure contain mercury. These fillings can last some people their entire lives.

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2008, 10:10:52 pm »
Yea, Lori, my doc IS used to off the wall questions from me - and he loves me for them, I'm certain  ::)

I'm thinking my dentist if just unclear on the whole "this is how a BAHA works" concept like Jim suggested.  I'll probably start with the replacement of one filling first (a very tiny one) and see if anything happens.  If it doesn't, I'll just jump into the rest of them feet first!

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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 06:37:50 am »
he'll have to be careful so that the "replacing" doesn't interfere with the sound of my BAHA.  This comment made no sense to me and I found it extremely strange.  I am clueless as to what he was referring to.  Would replacing my fillings somehow upset the way my BAHA works?  Have you ever heard of this  ???

it wont "interfere" with the BAHA  ... I would leave the BAHA off while he his doing his work ... but what I did find (for me) .. that the drilling with MUCH LOUDER !!! (it sounded like he was drilling my ear!!)  .. I guess since the BAHA I got used to "hearing" from bone vibrations .. and the drill of course on the jaw bone... drove me nuts....
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 06:40:36 am »

I might add about removing fillings..... remember on how they remove fillings .. they drill it apart ! with little bit all over your month .. you might injust more mercury by having one removed... it might be better to leave it...(of course unless your having dental issues)
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